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Hey, anyone want to help work up any of these ideas as Wiscon panel descriptions? They're listed with the name(s) of the people I talked to about them.

• there are several entirely different WisCons going on simultaneously (jesse the k)
• "The Structural Underpinnings of Social Isolation" (jesse the k)
• "a panel that isn't about picking people up for sex, but meeting folks one has an emotional/intellectual spark with" (possibly for dating in the future. ACE-friendly) (sophy)
• "carbon dating fairy": which books have aged well, how and why? Not so much about which books the various $suck and $fail fairies have visited, but which ones feel modern even after decades (Dune?), which ones are classics for every age (Tolkien?), and which ones remain attached to the era they were written but stand as great examples of that era's writing and concerns (PKDick?) * Is SF more likely to age badly than fantasy? * How much of a role does writing style play in the feeling of aging well or poorly? Some other books/authors: _War for the Oaks_, Piserchia, _God Stalk_, McCaffrey, Le Guin (the OH)

Date: 28 Jan 2015 01:44 am (UTC)
jiawen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jiawen
Is the "several different WisCons" one more about trying to bridge gaps, or appreciating the different threads in the fabric?

Date: 28 Jan 2015 04:20 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Bambi fawn cartoon with two heads (Conjoined Bambi)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
I really like that phrasing as well!

I mentioned it because it took me a long time to realize that parallel events occurred, and some of the ones I didn't know of were things I cared about. Also there's a plethora of signifiers. While this could be particularly helpful to first timers, I think old hands would be surprised.

The way I've thought about it.

Work: finding an agent, a publisher, a first/second/n1 reader, where to send slush, who wants a slush reader, dealers' room

Play: how do all these people already know each other? from the internet; from their youth; from the con circuit; from a coven; from RP ....

Dress codes: are all these blue haired people friends? why are there so many octopus tee shirts? is it OK to ask people about their clothes? that person isn't wearing clothes, it's underwear: what does that mean?

Speech codes: must you speak English? what happens when you use dialectical variations of English? is there a con language?


Date: 29 Jan 2015 01:27 am (UTC)
jiawen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jiawen
Well, it's a mixed metaphor, but maybe that's appropriate here.

I like all of what y'all have mentioned, and would want to be on that panel.

I also think it has some overlap with the Social Isolation panel of last year, and discussions of how it feels like not only are there multiple cons going on in the same space, but it feels like some of them are definitely given more prestige (and maybe privilege) than others.

Date: 29 Jan 2015 09:35 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: harbor seal's head with caption "seal of approval" (Approval)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Yay! You've managed to weave the threads into the bridge abutments!

Nowadays word count is not that limiting: the database hold a brief description as well as the full one. the latter is used for the web and the smartphone apps, so we can be wordy.

now it needs a snappy title: maybe one of these could spark something?
-traversing (traveling) the WisCon Multiverses
- Space travel in one zip code
-WisCon as an n-dimensional space

Date: 30 Jan 2015 03:17 am (UTC)
jesse_the_k: harbor seal's head with caption "seal of approval" (Approval)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
And it would be even better if we could recreate the sixth floor from 2012. (more party suites).

Take it away!

Date: 29 Jan 2015 06:56 am (UTC)
emceeaich: A close-up of a pair of cats-eye glasses (Default)
From: [personal profile] emceeaich
I don't know if this is a fragment or a separate panel, but I've thought quite a bit about the Four and Maybe Five eras of WisCon?

Date: 28 Jan 2015 01:27 pm (UTC)
libskrat: Truly the way of enlightenment is like unto half a mile of broken glass. (enlightenment is broken glass)
From: [personal profile] libskrat
I was going to say that Dune had aged horribly, but then I realized I don't think it was any good even when it was written. So. There is that.

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