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firecat (attention machine in need of calibration) ([personal profile] firecat) wrote2013-03-22 07:39 pm

wrong question

There was a controversy at Pycon 2013 in which a woman of color tweeted a complaint about the language some men were using. As a result, she and one of the men lost their jobs, and she's getting a metric gigaton of harrassment, which is still ongoing.

This op-ed says IMHO all the right things about it. I'm mostly putting it here so I can find it later.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/deannazandt/2013/03/22/why-asking-what-adria-richards-could-have-done-differently-is-the-wrong-question/


The situation is well summarized here:

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/PyCon_2013_forking_and_dongles_incident


I'm not really in the mood to argue about whether the forbes op-ed is right, so I might be wielding an arbitrary ax in the comments section.
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[personal profile] lilacsigil 2013-03-23 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
I wish you could wield an axe in their comments section.
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[personal profile] lovepeaceohana 2013-03-23 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
...I'm at this point going to have to assume you mean this comments section, because I just can't keep struggling through the one on Forbes ;-;
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[personal profile] ironed_orchid 2013-03-23 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
I really liked this piece by Courtney Stanton on Buzzfeed: A Woman Walks Into A Tech Conference.

I read half a dozen decent articles on this, but the one thing they all have in common is awful comments.
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[personal profile] amadi 2013-03-23 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
I was with Cort till she started in on "public shaming is uncool, taking pictures isn't fair" and then I had to walk away because I know and like her and didn't want to get too pissed off. Public shaming for public bad acts is often the only avenue safely available. And pictures of various people at a con will always be tweeted and blogged, often without their knowledge, unless there's a policy against it. I'm not sure who's served by that handwringing but it surely isn't Adria.
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[personal profile] bibliofile 2013-03-24 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Then there's this summary by [personal profile] the_siobhan.....
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[personal profile] eggcrack 2013-03-24 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Wrong question indeed. *offers you axe sharpener*
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[personal profile] ailbhe 2013-03-25 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
SO MUCH AWESOME.

[identity profile] hitchhiker.livejournal.com 2013-03-23 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
some very good blog posts about the incident:

http://beardseye.blogspot.com/2013/03/off-with-their-heads-pycon-incident-and.html
http://www.quora.com/PyCon-Tweet-Controversy-March-2013/Was-it-appropriate-for-SendGrid-to-fire-Adria-Richards-over-the-PyCon-Tweet-Controversy/answer/Gayle-Laakmann-McDowell
http://www.buzzfeed.com/courtneystanton/a-woman-walks-into-a-tech-conference
http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/22/adria-richards-im-staying-safe/
http://www.standardista.com/death-by-1000-cuts/