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"The Politics of Consumption: an Interview with Juliet Schor" in Aurora Online Magazine

http://aurora.icaap.org/2004Interviews/JulietSchor.html

Excerpt:
Basically, the market sector has been cannibalizing the domestic sphere, sucking huge flows of labour out of the unpaid sector - labour that is absolutely essential to the preservation and reproduction of the social fabric.


I was thinking about this while I was visiting the OH's aunt at the hospital yesterday. There weren't enough staff there to give patients attention they could use. At the same time, there are lots of people out of work and people working in dead-end, minimum-wage-or-less jobs and kinda pointless jobs. (Technical editing, which is what I usually do for money, seems kinda pointless to me when I'm visiting a patient in a hospital.)

I know it's not a matter of snapping your fingers and reassigning people where they can be more useful, but I kind of wish it were. Or something.

Date: 10 Apr 2004 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angeyja.livejournal.com
many problems... you probably don't know but this is where I work www.nysna.org. We had the same experience with my father's hospitalization, and I shudder to think about people that don't have family to help out. I'd say more but the issues are very complicated, and it's difficult to do a short post.

Date: 10 Apr 2004 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keryx.livejournal.com
It is a really complicated issue, and part of me just wants to put something like the WPA back in place - so there was a system by which people could be redistributed into the gaps in the workforce, and be provided for in the process. It may be overly idealistic, but it just seems so simple in concept.

Date: 10 Apr 2004 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] susanstinson.livejournal.com
I worked for many years with Center for Popular Economics (http://www.populareconomics.org/), where Julie Schor was an early active member. Another longtime member, the great feminist economist Nancy Folbre, wrote a book,The Invisible Heart (http://www.fguide.org/heart.htm), which also takes a serious look at these issues. You might like it.

Date: 10 Apr 2004 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angeyja.livejournal.com
Thank you; I will.

Date: 10 Apr 2004 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com
I haven't read the Schor article yet, so this may be repeating (or off the mark) ...

In this specific instance, one huge factor is our national unwillingness to pay the costs of health care. In every sector, employees are the big "cost center." We treat health care like a market commodity, and we aren't willing to pay for it. We act as if individuals like the OH's aunt are somehow either part of the problem or at least not part of a pattern. Thus, when it happens in us or our families, we take the brunt of it instead of demanding that the system pay attention to real needs.

I certainly know people who completely milk the system for aid and support, complain at how little is available, and get completely enraged and infuriated at how much tax they pay.

And I could go on and on and on.

Date: 10 Apr 2004 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmjwell.livejournal.com
I'm going to echo a bit of what [livejournal.com profile] wild_irises said. In my experience with customer service jobs, they are almost always viewed as "cost centers" and when the time comes for "cost containment" they get sliced and diced to the bone, because many companies see little if any value-added to maintaining good customer relations beyond the next sale.

On the taxation front, I'm always amazed that people who I know would never think it proper to simply walk into a grocery store and, without paying, walk out with an armload of food, have no problem driving on public roads (one example of using public infrastructure) while complaining that
taxation of any sort is unfair.

Yeah, maybe I'm a bit bitter

Date: 10 Apr 2004 06:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
many companies see little if any value-added to maintaining good customer relations beyond the next sale.

this is kind of a catch-22 in a country in which a lot of people (if not most) value a bargain or "great deal" over loyalty to somebody who has previously served them well.

Social Architecture

Date: 11 Apr 2004 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tedesson.livejournal.com
http://www.cprn.com/en/theme.cfm?theme=28

A Canadian Think Tank, investigating Social Architecture. Download the most recent research report _Catching up with Reality: Building a Case for a New Social Model_.

From the foreword:
In every society, there are four sources of well-being for citizens: market income, non-market care and support within the family, state-sponsored services and income transfers, and community services and supports. The roles and responsibilities of actors in markets, states, communities and families vary considerably from one country to another, and they can change over time. Certainly all four sources of well-being have been transformed by economic, demographic, political and social trend both within and beyond Canada's borders in recent years.


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