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24 Aug 2006 02:46 pm
firecat: photo of pluto with text "im in ur solar system degradin' ur planetz" (pluto)
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I used to play with astrology and Pluto was the planet for Scorpios, which I am. Although I don't really play with astrology any more, I am finding myself highly irritated that they stole MY planet!

Date: 24 Aug 2006 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epi-lj.livejournal.com
I dunno... this means that instead of having a planet, you have a dwarf planet! That's pretty cool. I think I'd rather have a dwarf planet.

Date: 25 Aug 2006 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbubley.livejournal.com
Well, you've still got Mars. Pluto has only been a planet for 76 years. Mars, on the other hand, you've had for centuries. You just have to share it with Aries. So now you're in a polyplanet relationship.

Date: 25 Aug 2006 12:16 pm (UTC)
technomom: (Afraid)
From: [personal profile] technomom
They can't take Pluto. If we listened to those silly astronomers they'd get us all KINDS of confused. Why start now?

Date: 25 Aug 2006 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
I would be much happier if they called it a dwarf planetOID or something like that, than a dwarf planet. If it's a dwarf PLANET, it's a planet. Sloppy ontology!

Date: 25 Aug 2006 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porcinea.livejournal.com
And? It's totally earth-centric. I mean, come on! If we're defining planets by *size*, then it's obvious that there are only 4. Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune and Uranus. Everything else is too piddly to count.

Date: 25 Aug 2006 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
It's pretty inconsistent, how they're defining planets. Not just by size, also by whether they've cleared their orbits (of clutter?), and Pluto apparently infringes on Neptune's orbit (I'm not sure if that means they'll eventually collide); I guess Neptune is called a planet and Pluto not, because of, yes, size. There appears to be a lot of controversy in astronomy-land over this vote, from the bits I've read.

Date: 25 Aug 2006 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
BTW do you follow Bruce Schneier's blog? His latest entry points to ...

Piglet squid!
http://www.cabrilloaq.org/piglet.html
http://www.neatorama.com/2006/07/12/cute-piglet-squid/

Date: 26 Aug 2006 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porcinea.livejournal.com
I do not. Thank you! Those were adorable. (I like the second one better, 'cause the squid lived.)

Date: 26 Aug 2006 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porcinea.livejournal.com
Scott Westerfield has an excellent diagram explaining the Pluto inconsistent orbit issue. Cf., http://scottwesterfeld.com/blog/?p=161 for "Why Pluto is not like the others". And http://scottwesterfeld.com/blog/?p=162 for "Why letting Pluto in is a bad idea".

Of course, I happen to think his diagram supports my "there are only 4 planets" theory. Cf., "By the way, that red splodge in the middle is the four terrestrial planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars.", in the first URL.

Date: 26 Aug 2006 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] porcinea.livejournal.com
D'oh! I never even thought of that!

Date: 26 Aug 2006 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
Glad you (and [livejournal.com profile] firecat) liked them ... Good point!

Date: 26 Aug 2006 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
Those are two fun essays, thanks!

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