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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111221140627.htm

Excerpt:
In a new article published in Current Directions in Psychological Science, a journal of the Association for Psychological Science, Arne Roets and Alain Van Hiel of Ghent University in Belgium look at what psychological scientists have learned about prejudice....

People who are prejudiced feel a much stronger need to make quick and firm judgments and decisions in order to reduce ambiguity. "Of course, everyone has to make decisions, but some people really hate uncertainty and therefore quickly rely on the most obvious information, often the first information they come across, to reduce it" Roets says....

It's virtually impossible to change the basic way that people think.
I'm very curious about that last statement. At what point does the "basic way" that a person thinks develop? Is it nature or nurture, and in what proportions? If it's true that some people need to reduce ambiguity more than others, do we know what contributes to that? Is it possible to teach people to tolerate more ambiguity, or to tolerate ambiguity in more situations?

I'm obviously assuming here that tolerating ambiguity would generally be a good skill to have (although I think it might lead to problems in situations where immediate action is required). I really dislike prejudice and the damage it causes, so if training in tolerating ambiguity might help diminish it, I would be in favor.

I think I've learned to tolerate ambiguity a lot better over the years, so my personal experience makes me doubt the assertion that it's impossible to change the way people think. It's possible that being on antidepressants is what made the difference for me, though.

Date: 29 Dec 2011 03:02 am (UTC)
staranise: A star anise floating in a cup of mint tea (Default)
From: [personal profile] staranise
*g* I think the journalist is overstating the case with "It's virtually impossible to change the basic way that people think" which is a kind of warped echo of the argh a lot of social psych researchers have. They've uncovered all these little mental shortcuts and stereotypes and heuristics people use to make snap judgments about the world. So, they say, if people KNOW about these things, why don't they stop DOING them? What do you MEAN, they haven't uncovered the magic cheat codes to make people think more rationally and accurately? WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL BEING STUPID?

(IMO, this is where it kind of where research psychologists aren't as served by their training as clinical psychologists: when you counsel, you learn that no, you can't make someone stop taking mental shortcuts, nor should you try; you just give them better shortcuts)

Date: 29 Dec 2011 06:10 am (UTC)
staranise: A star anise floating in a cup of mint tea (Default)
From: [personal profile] staranise
Yeah.

I mean, as someone who does computer programming, soc-psych computer metaphors make me laaaugh and laaaaugh. But yes.

Date: 29 Dec 2011 08:20 pm (UTC)
bibliofile: Fan & papers in a stack (from my own photo) (Default)
From: [personal profile] bibliofile
"WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL BEING STUPID?"

Heh.

I would also suggest that you can give people better shortcuts, but they still won't be different people -- at least, not without medication, and actually not even with. I say this as a participant in an Adult Children 12-step group in my twenties plus someone who's been on antidepressants for years and is a MUCH nicer person for it.

(Sort of like saying that I want clothes that flatter me, then realizing that I want clothes that make me look sixty pounds thinner. But that's a whole OTHER set of conversations.)

Date: 29 Dec 2011 08:20 pm (UTC)
bibliofile: Fan & papers in a stack (from my own photo) (Default)
From: [personal profile] bibliofile
context: that's how I read that particular line in the original post. Thanks so much for further elucidation & confirmation w/computery metaphor.

Date: 29 Dec 2011 08:44 pm (UTC)
evilawyer: young black-tailed prairie dog at SF Zoo (Default)
From: [personal profile] evilawyer
Excellent point about research (which is where I would have ended up if the dreaded law school hadn't beckoned) versus clinical psych (for which I know I lack the patience on the treatment end of things).

...when you counsel, you learn that no, you can't make someone stop taking mental shortcuts, nor should you try; you just give them better shortcuts

And keep reinforcing that it's a process, not a blinding flash "cure" (per my clinical psychologist S.O.).

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