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This seems to be more a disconnected series of small thoughts about body image than a rant per se.



When people (probably especially women) think of body image, and when they think of their bodies, it seems to me that they tend to think first and foremost about what their bodies look like to other people. Why don't more people think first about their bodies in terms of how they work? In the end, shouldn't it be more important that your senses are capable of delivering pleasure to your brain than that your shape is capable of delivering pleasure to someone else's brain? Shouldn't it be more important to you that, even if parts of your system aren't working as well as they used to or never were entirely right, the rest of you does function and lets you do what you can do, lets you be who you are?

In one fat acceptance book I read, I learned that some fat people who feel good about themselves tend to have an internal body image (in the sense of how their body looks) that is smaller than their actual body is. Normally, psychologists say that having a distorted body image is bad, but the author says that this is a good thing because it allows these people to go out and be active in society without feeling extremely different from other people.

I really don't understand the increase in plastic surgery among entire subcultures of well-to-do and not-even-that-well-to-do (it's not just for movie stars any more) folks. My favorite movie critic, Roger Ebert, looks like he has recently had a bunch of plastic surgery. To my eye, he looks really unnatural now. I just don't understand what people get out of artificially smoothing themselves.

I watch too many nature shows on TV. Sometimes when they're talking about a herd animal and about how they tend to push out herd members that are different because the herd instinct is uncomfortable with individuals that don't blend in, I think that human beings are herd animals. We make little groups and push out everybody who looks different. And from an individual psychology point of view, it seems very easy to be utterly terrified of feeling different from everybody else. (Note that feeling different from the mainstream, but having a set of people who share your values or traits, is not the same thing as feeling different from everybody, and it's the latter that I think is terrifying to a lot of people.)

Date: 27 Jan 2005 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johno.livejournal.com
re: Roger Ebert

He was seriously ill in 2003 and he lost a lot of weight in a uncontrolled manner due to the illness.

That's why he looks so weird now.

Date: 27 Jan 2005 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zebraartist.livejournal.com
wow, I guess I hadn't heard that. THanks, Johno! (long time, no see!)

Date: 27 Jan 2005 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
When people (probably especially women) think of body image, and when they think of their bodies, it seems to me that they tend to think first and foremost about what their bodies look like to other people. Why don't more people think first about their bodies in terms of how they work?

My body image has been twisting in fascinating ways, lately. I'm going through rapid changes which, taken in isolation, are generally considered to be bad: swelling like a balloon, to the point where I can't tie my own shoes; developing dozens of livid purple stretch marks; losing my mobility and my stamina to the extent that walking up two flights of stairs can leave me panting.

But of course, taken together, all of these changes are signs that my body is performing the function of gestation perfectly. My advancing disability and increasingly bizarre appearance are signs that things are going well. It's been a salutary and educational experience for me, given that my more permanent disabilities have historically given me a lot of trouble with both the "what my body looks like" standard and the "what my body can do" standard.

Date: 28 Jan 2005 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivka.livejournal.com
I suspect some of it is because body image doesn't catch up with the rapid changes.

I think that's a lot of it. I mean, I have actually had visible growth - visible not just to me, but to [livejournal.com profile] curiousangel - occur over the course of just a couple of days. "Hey, it's Saturday, and I'm noticeably larger than I was on Thursday." Three months ago, I could still button my jeans. Now my belly begins two inches below my breasts - there's an abrupt "shelf" there. There's nothing gradual about this!

Also, no matter how natural it is, I think it will always strike me as bizarre to see my skin moving because there's something alive and moving underneath that isn't me.

But another part is that women don't necessarily have much access to pregnancy before they get pregnant. I had never seen a pregnant woman naked before I became one, and I'd never felt anyone else's baby kick before I felt my own. For all that it's a natural process, it's one that women are often very private about.

Date: 27 Jan 2005 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zebraartist.livejournal.com
This was a very interesting read for me, Stef. Thank you!

Date: 27 Jan 2005 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keryx.livejournal.com
I wonder if body image isn't a wholly manufactured concept? At least, it's a concept with too much of its foundation in the notion that women need to be beautiful. So of course it's externally-focused; it's not really a counter to the beauty myth, just a layer on top of it.

The notion that it's healthy to have a distortedly small body image bothers me, because this idea is totally caught up in the notion that fat CAN'T be okay. In my mind, it's vastly better to see yourself as good, functional and exactly as fat as you are. But given the nature of "body image" in the first place... maybe it's not that important.

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