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This is based on a comment I made in a thread in [livejournal.com profile] rmjwell's journal here. The thread is about the idea "It's not our job to educate you about []ism."

My take is: Sure, I can choose to educate people. Sure, members of a group of people who are discriminated against can choose education as a way of getting more access to what they want. But people cannot require me/the group to do so.

Some people in the cultural mainstream or closer to centers of power take the attitude that whenever someone not in their group speaks up, that person *MUST* *JUSTIFY* their taking up public space; that person must take on all the work and all the responsibility for whether mainstream people are listening to them.

It can be a tactic for keeping people's ideas out of public discourse, insofar as they can just sit back and say "Yes, but" or "Sorry, I didn't like they way you put that" until the end of time.

If I want more power or access, ONE WAY is to try to educate people who have it to understand me better, so they'll decide I'm nice and give it to me. But it's not the only way, and I'm not required to go that route. There are other ways.

And in the situation where mainstream people are saying to a group farther away from the mainstream, "Why won't you join our movement?" and the group farther away from the mainstream is saying "Because you don't understand us," then it's DEFINITELY not the JOB of that group to educate the mainstream people. If they want to, then that's a good thing. But it's not their JOB.

I have no idea whether this is anyone else's take on the issue. It's my take on explaining to people how discriminiation and prejudice affect me as a member of some groups who are discriminated against. I do plenty of educating, but I resent the hell out of the attitude that I have to justify myself to people who have no interest in really hearing what I'm saying. I resent it so much that I would rather get far away from those people, and that means not spending energy on supporting whatever cause they would like me to support.

Date: 12 Sep 2005 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If I want something from someone it is my responsibility to shift their thinking such that they will give me what I want. If there is something I want from a large group of people, it is still my responsibility to shift their point to view enough to give me what I want.

The reason is simple. Groups of people have cultural beliefs that exclude many identities and even more behaviors. It get something that isn't inside the cultural belief system requires a shift in the culture. Cultures tend to resist change.

The Reaction Principle posits that arguing for change elicits argument for the status quo. This is one reason direct, confrontational activism meets very, very strong resistance.

All that said, there are many ways to "educate." Some are effective in given situations and some are not. Most of the education strategies that activists use aren't effective. There is an attempt to replace one "truth" with another "truth." Better, I think, to just get an inquiry going on the original truth without suggesting an alternative.

It is only possible to educate the willing. Shifting a population from "There is no problem" to "Maybe something here needs to be looked at" is a daunting task and has few immediate rewards. There is almost never the thrill of victory, that's for sure.

Heavy handed activism sometimes has a place in shaking people up and getting a conversation going but rarely moves the conversation forward past the starting point.

I think you are dead right to resent the requirement to justify yourself to get a piece of the freedom pie. The other routes are much more difficult and harder to see, though. Most activists are looking for other routes. It's another place where a little education could be useful. :)

Love.

Date: 12 Sep 2005 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazed-lynn.livejournal.com
oops, I wasn't logged in. Sorry.

Date: 12 Sep 2005 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazed-lynn.livejournal.com
Excellent point. Trying to get something from someone who doesn't have it to give is generally a last cause. Something like getting human rights from a government. :)

Date: 12 Sep 2005 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazed-lynn.livejournal.com
Which works very well -- and might even be preferable -- unless I'm trying to prevent you're having access to the water.

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