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1 Dec 2005 01:37 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
A lot has been said about how to prevent rape.
Women should learn self-defense.
Women should lock themselves in their houses after dark.
Women shouldn't have long hair and women shouldn't wear short skirts.
Women shouldn't leave drinks unattended. Fuck, they shouldn't dare to get drunk at all.
Instead of that bullshit, how about:
If a woman is drunk, don't rape her.
If a woman is walking alone at night, don't rape her.
If a women is drugged and unconscious, don't rape her.
If a woman is wearing a short skirt, don't rape her.
If a woman is jogging in a park at 5 a.m., don't rape her.
If a woman looks like your ex-girlfriend you're still hung up on, don't rape her.
If a woman is asleep in her bed, don't rape her.
If a woman is asleep in your bed, don't rape her.
If a woman is doing her laundry, don't rape her.
If a woman is in a coma, don't rape her.
If a woman changes her mind in the middle of or about a particular activity, don't rape her.
If a woman has repeatedly refused a certain activity, don't rape her.
If a woman is not yet a woman, but a child, don't rape her.
If your girlfriend or wife is not in the mood, don't rape her.
If your step-daughter is watching TV, don't rape her.
If you break into a house and find a woman there, don't rape her.
If your friend thinks it's okay to rape someone, tell him it's not, and that he's not your friend.
If your "friend" tells you he raped someone, report him to the police.
If your frat-brother or another guy at the party tells you there's an unconscious woman upstairs and it's your turn, don't rape her, call the police and report him as a rapist.
Tell your sons, god-sons, nephews, grandsons, and sons of friends that it's not okay to rape someone.
Don't just tell your women friends how to be safe and avoid rape.
Don't imply that she could have avoided it if she'd only done/not done x, y or z.
Don't imply that it's in any way her fault.
Don't let silence imply agreement when someone tells you he "got some" with the drunk girl.
Don't perpetuate a culture that tells you that you have no control over or responsibility for your actions. You can, too, help yourself.
My comment reposted from
clawfoot's journal:
It makes sense to read male-bashing in the meme. At the same time - only five of the suggestions even include references to men. The rest are just as applicable to anyone who rapes or considers rape, regardless of sex.
It does bug me that the five suggestions using male nouns and pronouns imply only the raping of women by men is worth discussing. OTOH, I also see the point when people say that the raping of women by men occurs much more often than other kinds of rape and thus deserves more discussion.
But I think both of these things - "rape is an integral and constant element of the male psyche," singling out rape-of-women-by-men for discussion - occur partly because men-raping-women is "an integral and constant element of" our culture. Other sorts of rapes occur and are equally horrible (if not more so because of their invisibility) but the culture doesn't get as excited over them.
I think it's unfortunate that the meme essentially perpetuates this men-raping-women cluster-of-ideas-thoughts-and-imagery by presenting a list of situations where one is invited to visualize a woman's getting raped.
I also very much agree with one part of its message: Rape is not the fault of the person who gets raped.
Women should learn self-defense.
Women should lock themselves in their houses after dark.
Women shouldn't have long hair and women shouldn't wear short skirts.
Women shouldn't leave drinks unattended. Fuck, they shouldn't dare to get drunk at all.
Instead of that bullshit, how about:
If a woman is drunk, don't rape her.
If a woman is walking alone at night, don't rape her.
If a women is drugged and unconscious, don't rape her.
If a woman is wearing a short skirt, don't rape her.
If a woman is jogging in a park at 5 a.m., don't rape her.
If a woman looks like your ex-girlfriend you're still hung up on, don't rape her.
If a woman is asleep in her bed, don't rape her.
If a woman is asleep in your bed, don't rape her.
If a woman is doing her laundry, don't rape her.
If a woman is in a coma, don't rape her.
If a woman changes her mind in the middle of or about a particular activity, don't rape her.
If a woman has repeatedly refused a certain activity, don't rape her.
If a woman is not yet a woman, but a child, don't rape her.
If your girlfriend or wife is not in the mood, don't rape her.
If your step-daughter is watching TV, don't rape her.
If you break into a house and find a woman there, don't rape her.
If your friend thinks it's okay to rape someone, tell him it's not, and that he's not your friend.
If your "friend" tells you he raped someone, report him to the police.
If your frat-brother or another guy at the party tells you there's an unconscious woman upstairs and it's your turn, don't rape her, call the police and report him as a rapist.
Tell your sons, god-sons, nephews, grandsons, and sons of friends that it's not okay to rape someone.
Don't just tell your women friends how to be safe and avoid rape.
Don't imply that she could have avoided it if she'd only done/not done x, y or z.
Don't imply that it's in any way her fault.
Don't let silence imply agreement when someone tells you he "got some" with the drunk girl.
Don't perpetuate a culture that tells you that you have no control over or responsibility for your actions. You can, too, help yourself.
My comment reposted from
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It makes sense to read male-bashing in the meme. At the same time - only five of the suggestions even include references to men. The rest are just as applicable to anyone who rapes or considers rape, regardless of sex.
It does bug me that the five suggestions using male nouns and pronouns imply only the raping of women by men is worth discussing. OTOH, I also see the point when people say that the raping of women by men occurs much more often than other kinds of rape and thus deserves more discussion.
But I think both of these things - "rape is an integral and constant element of the male psyche," singling out rape-of-women-by-men for discussion - occur partly because men-raping-women is "an integral and constant element of" our culture. Other sorts of rapes occur and are equally horrible (if not more so because of their invisibility) but the culture doesn't get as excited over them.
I think it's unfortunate that the meme essentially perpetuates this men-raping-women cluster-of-ideas-thoughts-and-imagery by presenting a list of situations where one is invited to visualize a woman's getting raped.
I also very much agree with one part of its message: Rape is not the fault of the person who gets raped.
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Date: 1 Dec 2005 11:08 pm (UTC)None of the above means that going to a frat party and getting drunk is a good idea.
Or getting drunk in a bar.
I think part of the problem here is that somehow, this culture has twisted things around so that the awareness that there are things one can do as a potential victim to reduce one's risk level winds up offloading responsibility from the perpetrator. As though, because the victim didn't take as much care as they could have, society is less outraged at the person who actually committed the assault. What that person did is just as horribly wrong no matter what the victim did or didn't do to try to avoid it--whether the victim took every precaution possible, or was completely careless, the person who committed rape is every bit as much a rapist. Society, though, treats it as though there's only so much responsibility to go around, so that to the extent that potential victims are capable of looking out for themselves, potential perpetrators have that much less responsibility for their actions. That sucks.
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Date: 2 Dec 2005 01:59 am (UTC)Yes, that's part of the point. Although I do feel constrained to note that it's not nearly as strong a reaction for other types of crime. If a man flashes a wad of cash around in a bar and gets rolled for it, people may go "tsk-tsk, how stupid can you get?" -- but there is still no question that he was the victim of a crime. If a woman is wearing a short skirt and gets raped... all of a sudden she's the one who did something wrong, and the rapist is completely exonerated!
The other part of the point is that the exclusive focus on women in rape prevention reinforces this. When we talk to women about "ways to avoid rape" without also talking to men about "how not to become a rapist", we put all the responsibility for rape onto the woman -- just as we used to put all the responsibility for birth control onto the woman. Have you ever heard someone say, "she got herself pregnant"? It used to be a common phrase, as though the other participant in the process had nothing whatsoever to do with it. And I've also heard the corresponding phrase "she got herself raped", though neither one as frequently these days as they used to be used.
What's interesting to me is the number of people who are making one of two particular misinterpretations of this meme: (1) that it's advocating not teaching women how to reduce their risk exposure, or (2) that it can't possibly do any good because "there will always be rapists". The first misinterpretation IMO is an indicator of the same either/or, zero-sum mindset you mentioned. The second shows just how deeply the rape culture permeates our society, that people can't even envision a change which would make rape more of an abnormality and less just "something some guys do".
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Date: 2 Dec 2005 03:49 am (UTC)Yeah, I meant to be talking specifically there about the way society treats rape, but I managed not to make that explicit in what I said. Thanks for the clarification.
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Date: 3 Dec 2005 03:20 am (UTC)The meme appears to be trying to counter the idea that it's not rape in certain circumstances (such as if a girl is unconscious or dressed in a certain way or whatever). Of course, if the meme included "If he's the new guy in the cellblock, don't rape him", it might do a better job.
No, I don't buy that "there will always be rapists." I buy that there will always be predators. We may be able to build a society where predators are too scared of consequences to resort to violence - but the predators would still be there. They'll just have to restrict themselves to white-collar crime.
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Date: 3 Dec 2005 03:22 am (UTC)I completely agree.