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Very clever of Hugo Weaving to get away from his face's being typecast as "Mr. Smith" by doing his next role entirely behind a mask.

I overall liked the movie although I thought it tried to do a bit too much. That is, I felt covered with a lot of loose ends afterward. And I didn't like the ending - I understand that they had to do something for the entertainment of all those people who showed up (as [livejournal.com profile] kyubi said to me afterward), but it's not like the whole thing was the building's fault.

And of course there were plot holes large enough to drive tube cars through, but that's typical of the genre.

I am suspicious of action movies that purport to contain political messages, because I think watching an action movie is cathartic and bleeds off anger, and so doesn't reinforce the urge a person might have to actually take political action. So despite all the political trappings of this movie, I have to recommend it as entertainment only.

Oh yeah - as far as I recall, it doesn't pass the Bechdel Ginger Benchmark. [sigh]

Date: 24 Mar 2006 07:16 pm (UTC)
kshandra: A cross-stitch sampler in a gilt frame, plainly stating "FUCK CANCER" (Time for Change)
From: [personal profile] kshandra
Your comments imply that you haven't read the original. The explosions are all canonical. (There is an exchange missing in V's death sequence wherein he asks Evey to give him a Viking funeral; [livejournal.com profile] gridlore and I are split on whether or not its lack is felt.)

I'm intrigued by your take on Hugo Weaving in this role. I've never felt he was typecast, personally. He's been in six movies that have become a seemingly inextricable part of modern culture; being a fan of both series probably affects my view of his career. (And I'm dissolving into handwaving at this point, and can't really spend that much time at work making that turn into words, so I'll stop now. *grin*)

Except for this postscript. ;-)

Date: 24 Mar 2006 07:17 pm (UTC)
kshandra: A cross-stitch sampler in a gilt frame, plainly stating "FUCK CANCER" (Default)
From: [personal profile] kshandra
No, it doesn't pass the Bechdel Test. I don't feel it's lacking as a film as a result - but again, I have more familiarity with the original material than it seems you do.

Re: Except for this postscript. ;-)

Date: 24 Mar 2006 09:37 pm (UTC)
kshandra: A cross-stitch sampler in a gilt frame, plainly stating "FUCK CANCER" (Time for Change)
From: [personal profile] kshandra
I understand both your points here. It's actually been long enough since I read the comics that I only had vague impressions going into the movie.

Date: 24 Mar 2006 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epi-lj.livejournal.com
I do think that he had a lot of overcoming (in terms of being typecast to do). In evidence, I submit that *HUGE* number of jokes that went around the internet that spoofed him delivering Agent Smith dialogue in Lord of the Rings in the scenes containing Elrond. A lot of people on my friends list and among my in person friends said that that's all they could think of whenever he was on-screen, as well, and I heard people in the theatre whispering, 'Mr. Anderson,' after his lines.

I'm not sure that appearing in a mask will help that, though. But the terribleness of the sequels seem to have knocked The Matrix down several pegs in the "cultural icon" stakes, so maybe time will do the job.

Date: 24 Mar 2006 09:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kshandra
[livejournal.com profile] epi_lj's comment would belie that theory. I get occasional flashes of Agent Smith in Elrond's speeches, but not so thorough or so often to detract from his portrayal. Obviously I'm in the minority here. ;-)

And this isn't to say that things like [livejournal.com profile] agentelrond or some of the various userpics out there don't make me giggle (I'm thinking of "Oh, god, I showed up in the wrong costume again, didn't I?"). But it's not the fullness of my experience.

(Of course, one of these years I'm finally going to get around to seeing Priscilla, Queen of the Desert and really break my brain. *grin*)

Date: 25 Mar 2006 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] micheinnz.livejournal.com
Like this userpic here?

Date: 25 Mar 2006 05:11 am (UTC)
kshandra: A cross-stitch sampler in a gilt frame, plainly stating "FUCK CANCER" (LOL)
From: [personal profile] kshandra
Perzackly.

Date: 25 Mar 2006 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynne.livejournal.com
I only sometimes get the "Mr. Smith" thing - but I've only seen one of the Matrix movies all the way through, the first; I've seen maybe half of the third, and - barely any of the second. Still, when he says "Welcome to Rivendell," I always hear "... Mister Baggins."

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