firecat: hobbes the tiger blowing a raspberry (hobbes tongue)
[personal profile] firecat
In reaction to a lot of articles about evolutionary psychology/sociobiology I've read over the years, and especially this news article reporting on one such person's claim that people with higher IQs are more liberal and more likely to be sexually exclusive:

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2010/03/02/Higher-IQ-linked-to-liberalism-atheism/UPI-68381267513202/

Less intelligent children may be more likely to grow up to be evolutionary psychologists, a researcher sitting at home in front of her computer suggests.

[personal profile] firecat, whose morning caffeine consumption is correlated with an urge to be a loudmouth on the Internet, argues that the tendency to associate complex modern concepts with simplistic notions of biological urges is a preference that the ancestors of evolutionary psychologists had for millions of years.

These so-called "scientists" are evolutionarily designed to be conservative, caring mostly about their sexual interest in young females. Being able to understand the limits of using one's sexual desires to explain the entire universe and the possibility that other people might have different sexual preferences and even nonsexual interests is evolutionarily novel.

Data from the Wasted Money Endlessly Going to Sociobiology Study support [personal profile] firecat's hypothesis. Middle-aged white males who frequently try to write papers explaining why attraction to young thin white European females is essential to the understanding of human evolution, history, and the popularity of red sports cars have an average IQ (whatever that is) of π, whereas people who pay attention to the way other people actually behave have an average IQ that matches the boiling point of water in Celsius.

Date: 4 Mar 2010 08:10 pm (UTC)
onyxlynx: Bird with Bump in Beak (Beaky Bird)
From: [personal profile] onyxlynx
Hee hee!

(One of my tags is "evolutionary bullology." I don't use it nearly enough, probably because ranting brings out unfortunate writing (and what [personal profile] laughingrat would call "hatchetation") for days.)
Edited (Closing parentheses) Date: 4 Mar 2010 08:11 pm (UTC)

Date: 4 Mar 2010 09:11 pm (UTC)
wild_irises: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wild_irises
Marry me?

Date: 4 Mar 2010 09:49 pm (UTC)
the_future_modernes: a yellow train making a turn on a bridge (Default)
From: [personal profile] the_future_modernes
*snickers*

Date: 4 Mar 2010 10:25 pm (UTC)
jae: (goofygecko)
From: [personal profile] jae
HEE!

-J

Date: 5 Mar 2010 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
These so-called "scientists" are evolutionarily designed to be conservative


"Critics of evolutionary psychology and sociobiology have advanced an adaptationists-as-right-wing-conspirators (ARC) hypothesis, suggesting that adaptationists use their research to support a right-wing political agenda. We report the first quantitative test of the ARC hypothesis based on an online survey of political and scientific attitudes among 168 US psychology Ph.D. students, 31 of whom selfidentified as adaptationists and 137 others who identified with another nonadaptationist meta-theory. Results indicate that adaptationists are much less politically conservative than typical US citizens and no more politically conservative than non-adaptationist graduate students. Also, contrary to the “adaptationists-aspseudo-scientists” stereotype, adaptationists endorse more rigorous, progressive, quantitative scientific methods in the study of human behavior than nonadaptationists." Tybur, J. M., Miller, G. F., & Gangestad, S. W. (2007). Testing the controversy: An empirical examination of adaptationists' attitudes towards politics and science. Human Nature, 18(4). (PDF (http://www.unm.edu/~psych/faculty/articles/tybur%202007%20politics.pdf)).

Date: 5 Mar 2010 01:57 pm (UTC)
trixtah: (Default)
From: [personal profile] trixtah
*chortle chortle*

Don't we like the shiny red sports cars because of the berries we (females) were picking in the forests? I don't recall anything about the ones driving them in evo psych/sociobiological thought, but perhaps it's something to do with tools/

Date: 5 Mar 2010 03:28 pm (UTC)
bcholmes: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bcholmes
This is awesome.

Date: 9 Mar 2010 01:52 am (UTC)
aquaeri: A cake in the shape of a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick (gold brick)
From: [personal profile] aquaeri
At least as thoughtful and aware of human diversity and complexity as the original study.

Date: 20 Mar 2010 10:13 pm (UTC)
later_tuesday: (Gert)
From: [personal profile] later_tuesday
I would like to friend you, solely for this post.

Date: 4 Mar 2010 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wiredferret.livejournal.com
My twitter response to that article was:
Despite the disclaimer, that article was like a bingo-card of insulting assumptions and correlation equating to causation.

My real-world reaction included more insults and swearing, but 140 characters limits me.

Date: 4 Mar 2010 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] datagoddess.livejournal.com
<3

Marry me?

Date: 4 Mar 2010 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mama-hogswatch.livejournal.com
Okay, you win the Internets today. This is brilliant.

Date: 4 Mar 2010 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] men-in-full.livejournal.com
LOL, if Paleolithic art is any indicator, attraction to *thin* females wasn't always part of it.

Date: 6 Mar 2010 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] men-in-full.livejournal.com
Do a google search of "venus lespugue" and about 4 or 5 100x100 images come up that would all be good for icons. Lespugue isn't as well-known as Willendorf, either.

Date: 4 Mar 2010 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e4q.livejournal.com
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm pie....

Date: 4 Mar 2010 08:55 pm (UTC)
eeyorerin: (win)
From: [personal profile] eeyorerin
I think this is the point where I propose marriage, right?

Date: 4 Mar 2010 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baratron.livejournal.com
You. Are. Awesome. I'm feeling quite upset and stressed at the moment, and really needed the laugh. The only thing that could make this better would be if your imaginary study formed an amusing acronym. (WMEGTSS doesn't quite do it for me).

Permission to repost this on [livejournal.com profile] metaquotes?

Date: 4 Mar 2010 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenixpdx.livejournal.com
EEK! Thud! I'm in lurve.

Lovely, just lovely! Thank you!

Date: 4 Mar 2010 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daze39.livejournal.com
Seems like the interesting tendency that the sociobiologists need to study is why we have such an inclination to tell ourselves "biological" stories about stuff that is probably much more determined by culturally-patterned expectations: for example, it may well be the manifestation of some "biological mating impulse" that most of us seem to be hard-wired to experience orgasm as an entertaining sensation... but I think most of the rest of the attitudes people have about sexuality - the particular patterns of motivation we (FSVO "we", of course!) expect to be associated with desire, the specific emotional "meanings" we apply to various aspects of sexual interaction and experience - all this is, I suspect, a lot more culturally determined than many folks admit to themselves.

Date: 4 Mar 2010 11:26 pm (UTC)
pameladean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pameladean
This almost made me fall out of my chair. Absolutely pitch-perfect. *snort*

P.

Date: 4 Mar 2010 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nellorat.livejournal.com
One benefit of actually reading the link: I find it really hard to believe that 6 IQ points on average is statistically significant.

I've seen what I consider sociobiology done well, but it's like a needle in a haystack. Of needles.

Date: 5 Mar 2010 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teal-cuttlefish.livejournal.com
That was my first thought, too. Both numbers are well within a standard deviation of average, also known as the "margin of error."

Date: 5 Mar 2010 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarram.livejournal.com
Thank you for the lulz. I've had a stressful day and needed it!

Date: 5 Mar 2010 12:42 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Is this the study that defined 'liberalism' only in terms of one issue, ie generosity to other races? Nothing about reproductive rights, gay rights, freedom of speech...?

/bemusedoutsider here/

Date: 5 Mar 2010 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotusblue.livejournal.com
Here from metaquotes, just wanted to say that you rock and I want to distribute this to a number of smart but very aggravating people I know.

Date: 5 Apr 2010 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbow-gray.livejournal.com
Wandered over via [livejournal.com profile] metaquotes, and I think I'm in love. I stumbled across that article a few weeks ago and decided its main use is a litmus test to see who's worth talking to, based on their reaction.

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