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[personal profile] snippy posted about an interactive feature on CNN.com that attempts to determine whether you, a person residing in the US, can correctly identify whether you count as "middle-class."

Here is the gist of the comment I left over at [personal profile] snippy's post:

Income is not a great gauge of class by itself. Net worth matters a LOT.

Have you read The Millionaire Next Door? One of the main themes is that some professionals with high incomes believe that appearing wealthy is an important part of their professional reputation. So they have big houses, expensive cars and clothes, and are deep in debt. Some rich people think it's important to save money, so they have lots of assets but they don't live in fancy houses, drive beat-up cars, etc. (The book is rather simplistic in its judgements but I agree that those patterns exist.)

Those rich folks and professionals might have similar gross incomes. But are they the same class?

They are defining "middle class" where I live as a household income of $68,420—$107,815.

They're counting it as the middle fifth of income, which means they're assuming five classes. One wonders what the results would be like if they took the middle third of income (I suspect the results would be more boring, although I'm sure some people would define themselves as middle class when they aren't in the middle third of income).

Date: 31 Dec 2014 12:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] necturus
I believe the upward mobility myth derives from the era of the open frontier, when there were always new lands and new resources for the adventurous to take and exploit. Opportunities deriving from the frontier persisted long after it was closed, up through the 1960's at least. But now we are living in an era of limited resources, where one person's success more often than not comes at another's expense. The failure of some on the right to see this boggles the mind, much like their denial of climate change.

Date: 3 Jan 2015 04:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] selki
Succinct!

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