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I was intending to give this idea the attention I thought it deserved (none) but so many folks on my flist are talking about it that I feel pressured to put in two cents.

(See how easy it is for some people to feel social pressure? No one is even standing over me asking me to wear a button or asking to feel my boobs. People are just writing about it.)

So:

It's fun to break social rules when you're among friends and people you trust in a relatively safe space. Sounds like the original incident was like that, and that's great.

I object to the "Project" aspect of it. I don't want entire SF cons to become spaces where I feel pressured to walk around advertising my willingness, or lack thereof, to be felt up.

I have some more personal reactions that I may put into a flocked post.

Date: 22 Apr 2008 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sistercoyote.livejournal.com
Yes.

Also, don't feel obligated to say anything ever just because everyone else is talking about it. Say what's important to you. :)

Date: 22 Apr 2008 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiger-spot.livejournal.com
I agree with everything after the "So".

And now the vague sense of "perhaps I should weigh in here somewhere" is gone. Yay!

Date: 22 Apr 2008 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cynthia1960.livejournal.com
You're right, the "Project" part systematizes this kind of ill-mannered public behavior.

Date: 22 Apr 2008 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usqueba.livejournal.com
It's been swirling around in my head. My initial thought was, "Just cause I don't want to be groped by most people doesn't mean anything. It just means I don't want to". I'm fine with the way I look, I'm comfortable with my body, sexuality, etc.

Date: 22 Apr 2008 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ona-tangent.livejournal.com
My problem with it is the attitude that you don't have to participate if you are unwilling. If I'm walking down a hall and someone asks if they can feel me up or if I have to walk past the "project", bam. Then you've already made me participate even if the answer is no or that my involvement was minimal.

[ETA: I agree with the first part. It was a group of friends and a safe space. That's great. And if were just friends and a safe space I might even participate. It's the people who aren't going to get the friends/safe space thing that can potentially make this "project" uncomfortable.]

Date: 23 Apr 2008 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] webmaven.livejournal.com
This sounds (at an absolute minimum) rather creepy. Can you point to a post that provides more background? Google isn't giving me anything for "Boobie Project" on LJ except this post.

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