Y'know...

30 Jul 2003 11:01 am
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...I never did consider words to be substitutes for actions, especially actions that are repeated over and over again.

Which means that the Nth time you cancel our date because you forgot, or overbooked, or decided something else matters more to you...

...your telling me that you really miss me and really want to spend more time with me isn't going to make much of an impression on me.

You can say that you made a mistake. You can say that you're sorry. You can say that you'll work out some other time for us to get together. But trying to make me feel sorry for you is a bad move.

Date: 30 Jul 2003 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalmn.livejournal.com
[headbutt]

mrrow?

i know how this one goes. the current rendition of it that i'm in the middle of has less to do with dumbassitude than it sounds like yours does, but here i still am, more single than i usedtawas.

Date: 30 Jul 2003 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nolly.livejournal.com
And mine, for the most part, has entirely different causes, but yeah, more time alone than I usedta have. *hugs* offered, regardless.

Date: 30 Jul 2003 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyubi.livejournal.com
mrrt?

*headbumps*

Date: 30 Jul 2003 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysana.livejournal.com
Eesh. *hugs*

Date: 30 Jul 2003 12:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lcohen
*hugs* offered.

Date: 30 Jul 2003 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caprine.livejournal.com
I had that relationship. Several times. The forgetting of dates is particularly odious. In my experience it indicates that the suddenly pervasive sucking sound is the relationship being sucked down the toilet. You have my sympathies. Good for you that you're standing up for yourself when someone treats you with that degree of disrespect.

Date: 30 Jul 2003 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalmn.livejournal.com
um, canadian rendition, this time. is okay. we're on good terms, i'm just sad.

Date: 30 Jul 2003 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nolly.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know it's not the same situation at all, and I quite agree with you that words do not substitute for time, and that it scrapes when someone tries to make that substitution. I was kinda pinballing off the previous comment in another direction entirely, really. Anyway.

Date: 30 Jul 2003 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] femery.livejournal.com
Ah Kiddo ... how frustrating when time is so
precious.

If only everyone remembered how much goodwill,
safety and value can be created when one takes the
initiative to invite once in awhile and keep
their appointments!

Keep speaking up for yourself!

Big Hugs,

D

Date: 30 Jul 2003 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmjwell.livejournal.com
Damn that sucks big, big rocks.

Seems to be a lot of that sort of assinine behavior going around.

Date: 30 Jul 2003 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bobbylevi.livejournal.com
Yes, I agree... I've always paid more attention to actions than words!!

Reminds me of a song from "My Fair Lady".... "Show me".

I "grrrr" on your behalf...

Date: 30 Jul 2003 03:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] submarine-bells.livejournal.com
BTDT, had that relationship (or something very like it)... after enough iterations of the "I'm so sorry! I really do value spending time with you, honestly!" dance, I also find that "pitiless" is a good descriptor of my mood. Along with "sharp-toothed".

Affectionate language is a fine and splendid thing. But it should be an adjuct to affectionate behaviour, not a substitute. After having played this game a few different ways now with various people, my tolerance for it is pretty minimal. So yeah, sing it sistah.

Nuke 'em from orbit. Only way to be sure.

Date: 30 Jul 2003 03:41 pm (UTC)

mutuality

Date: 30 Jul 2003 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tedesson.livejournal.com
If a friend consistently fails to suggest things for us to do together, or skips things we had planned, then I begin to believe that they aren't really my friend.

If both people want it, it will happen, if one of them doesn't, I'm not going to be the only one holding the rope.

And if they want me to be sorry for their dropping their end, well there's lots of things to do with a rope.

IMHO.

I'm a really difficult friend. I have standards.

Date: 30 Jul 2003 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynne.livejournal.com
*nod* Meh. Sorry to hear about (repeated) asinine behavior in your direction. :|

Date: 30 Jul 2003 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grumpywitch.livejournal.com
Yeah, what everyone else said. *hugs*

Date: 30 Jul 2003 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyrzqxgl.livejournal.com
Always the space alien, words are some of my favorite types of actions. I figure people's reaches will exceed their grasps fairly often timewise, financially, etc., but kind or (super-ugh) nasty words will stick with me. Not to change the subject, though -- I'm sorry this person is giving you the runaround and pissing you off.

Date: 31 Jul 2003 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalmn.livejournal.com
thanks, sweetie. on the bright side, it's much less angstfilled *this* time.

Date: 31 Jul 2003 08:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalmn.livejournal.com
thanks, hon.

Date: 31 Jul 2003 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louisedunn.livejournal.com
*HUGS* Yeah. What you're describing definitely scrapes.

I had words much like these with someone years ago and am now wondering if I learned enough that time around...since I have another flake in my life now and the things zie's flaking on aren't dates, but I still feel too-unimportant to zir when zie overbooks & then flakes on me with that as an excuse. Hmph.

My flake is certainly going through an icky time in zir life, but I keep wondering just how long do I have to be nice and supportive of icky behaviors that zie happens to blame on zir depression? Awhile, yes, but perhaps six months of this is enough.

So, I'm sitting here pouting fiercely on your behalf as well as my own! :)

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